Ginsters do make pies, and you can get them for a quid in Tesco. My beef (!) with puff pastry is that you only ever get to eat around 80% of it as it goes all over the shop but it holds together well. The base is a bit flimsy. I try to eat with my hands but quit after burning my fingers as the sloppy filling dribbles all over them. Minimal carrot, tons of steak and gravy. A useful work out for the gnashers. No added ingredients it boasts. Therefore a bit watery in parts